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'HALL CAINE" - Certificate of Discharge RasmussenDETAILS
Name: T.S.S. Hall Caine
Believed to be named after Sir Thomas Henry Hall Caine K.B.E.
Type: Twin Screw Steamer
Construction: Timber – sourced for Australian Hardwoods
Length: 131.2 ft
Beam: 29.0 ft
Depth in Hold: 7.25 ft
Engine: Two compound surface condensing – Poole and Steele Sydney of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street Sydney.
Builder: Denis Sullivan, Coopernook NSW.
Launched: 26th October 1912
Official number: ON 131549
Registered: Sydney 15 in 1913
Tonnage: n.b. 1 shipping ton = 100 cubic ft or 2.83 cu. m.)
Gross 213.88 tons.
Nett (Register) 97.56 tons (276.09 cu. m.) .
OWNERS:
1913 - 1916 Nicholas Cain (Director N. Cain's Coastal Co-op. Co. Ltd.)
1916 – 1918 John Storey Rodger
1918 - 1924 Holyman Brothers (Ltd) - Launceston
Register transferred to Melbourne – 16 of 1924
1924 - 1933 William Holyman & Sons Pty Ltd
Register transferred to Sydney 4 of 1933
1933 - 1937 Rocco Edmund Caminiti – Bondi NSW
LAUNCH 1912
Yet another boat has been sent on her way to take a place in the long line of steamers that trade from and to Sydney on the North Coast of New South Wales. This boat was launched on Saturday morning last [26th October 1912] from the shipbuilding yards of Mr. D. Sullivan, at Coopernook. Between four and five hundred persons had assembled for the occasion, and a number of them took an early position on the deck of the vessel, awaiting for her to be sent out on her maiden contact with the waters of the Manning.
The boat which is being built for Mr. N. Cain, of the Hastings River, is to trade between Wauchope and Sydney, in conjunction with the Macquarie and Ballengarra , and will, it is expected, take her place in the running early in January next. She has been built mainly for the carrying of timber, and in that connection has an average capacity for about 77,000 feet of timber. She will also take other cargo offered, but accommodation for passengers has not been included in her construction. (Brief extract from The Port Macquarie News and Hastings River Advocate Saturday 2nd November 1912) .
ARRIVAL IN SYDNEY
In tow of Messrs. J and A Browns’ tug Gamecock the hull of the new steamer Hall Caine arrived at Sydney on Friday afternoon. [15th November 1912]
She was built on the Manning River by Denis Sullivan, and is similar type as the steamer Tuncurry .
The Hall Caine which is designed for the coastal trade, brought a cargo of hardwood to Sydney. Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate Monday 18th November 1912.
FITTING OUT
The Hall Caine . — Our readers will remember some six months or so ago we published an account, of the launching of the steamer Hall Caine , at Coopernook, where her hull was built by Mr. D. Sullivan. The new steamer, which was built to the order of the N. Cain Co., will shortly be placed in commission, and will he under the command of Captain Greer, of the Ballengarra .
The Hall Caine 's engines were made by Messrs Poole and Steel, of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street, who, are also superintending the completion. The engines are twin compound — surface condensing engines, capable of driving her at the rate of nine knots an hour
when loaded. The boat is constructed of Australian hardwood, is 130 feet in length,
28ft. in breadth and 7ft 6ins. in depth.
The Manning River Times and Advocate for the Northern Coast Districts of NSW Saturday 5th April 1913 .
SOLD FOR THE TASMANIAN TRADE
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
The well-known coasting steamer Hall Caine , which has for some time past been running on the coast for Allen Taylor and Co., Ltd., has been sold to W. Holyman and Sons, Limited, of Launceston, for the Melbourne-Tasmanian trade. She is expected to leave Sydney tomorrow. The Hall Caine was originally built for Cain's
Co-operative S.S. Co.
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
Damaged crossing Bass Strait STEAMER'S MISFORTUNES.
Hall Caine Again Damaged.
On both her last two trips from Smithton (Tas) to Melbourne the small wooden
steamer Hall Caine , of 272 tons register, has met with fierce squalls in Bass Strait,
and sustained extensive damage.
The Hall Caine was put into dry dock at Williamstown yesterday with her stern bulwarks stove in by heavy seas and scattered over her decks in a disorderly mass. Captain MacDonald said yesterday that a westerly gale whipped up a choppy sea something like the rip, only more so which began to crash over the Hall Caine with monotonous regularity. As the gale increased in force, so the seas became higher and more vicious. One wave crashed up against Captain MacDonald's cabin on the bridge, stove in the port, and saturated his bunk and many of his belongings.
Another sea struck the cabin of the chief mate (Mr. Bradley) smashed the wooden walls and for the second time, swept away all his personal effects. A third sea flooded the stokehold, and the crew was forced to tend the fires in swirling water. "One sea struck us with such force, said Captain MacDonald, "that the Hall Caine shuddered from stem to stern, and for a moment I thought that the whole of the port side had gone". Captain MacDonald caused the steamer to be hove to, and for a day and a night she remained with her head to the weather. When running for shelter to Flinders, the Hall Caine ran aground, but was later refloated and after bunkering, came on to Melbourne.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Sat 14 Jul 1923
MORE PROBLEMS IN BASS STRAIT – RUDDER DAMAGED
A new rudder is being fitted to the Holyman steamer Hall Caine which is now in dry dock, and the vessel will resume her run to the Gippsland Lakes next week, sailing from Melbourne on Tuesday. Other minor repairs are being made to the steamer
while she is idle. The Hall Caine , having lost her rudder in a gale off the Victorian coast on July 21, was towed to Melbourne by the Holyman steamer Laranah . She maintains a weekly service between Melbourne and Lake Entrance, reaching this port on Sunday, and leaving again on Tuesday each week. The mishap has caused her to miss one trip.
Daily Commercial News and Shipping List (Sydney, NSW : 1891 - 1954) - Sat 4 Aug 1928
SOLD TO INTERESTS IN SYDNEY
HALL CAINE SOLD.
Supply Ship for Trawlers.
LAUNCESTON, Monday.-The steamer Hall Caine , a unit of Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons' fleet, has been sold to Messrs. Cam and Sons, Sydney, and will leave for that port in about 10 days or a fortnight. It is understood that the vessel will be used as a store ship for the fleet of trawlers owned by her new purchasers.
The Hall Caine is a wooden vessel of about 200 tons, and was built in New South Wales. She was purchased by Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons in 1919, and was engaged for a long time in the trade between Melbourne and Smithton and the Gippsland Lakes. The vessel has been laid up at Launceston for three and a half years. She is now in dock, undergoing overhaul preparatory to leaving for Sydney. n.b she arrived in Sydney on 19th July 1933.
Advocate (Burnie, Tas. : 1890 - 1954) - Tue 4 Jul 1933
HALL CAINE FOUNDERS NEAR BROKEN BAYHall Caine , which foundered off Broken
Bay last night, was fortunate to escape. The steamer Idant came to their assistance when the little vessel was about to turn turtle. The engineer noticed water in the engine room late yesterday afternoon, and although the pumps started immediately, the water gained rapidly.
Distress signals were flown and the crew watched a steamer several miles off sail on without sighting the signals.
The Hall Caine filled up rapidly. Four hours later, the Idan t appeared. The crew remained on the Hall Caine hoping that she could be beached at Broken Bay, but she suddenly took on a list and almost at the last moment the crew hurriedly launched a lifeboat. They had just reached the Idant when the Hall Caine turned turtle.
Hatches blew out with deafening reports and the little vessel disappeared, leaving a large quantity of wreckage floating in the sea.
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) - Fri 19 Mar 1937
MARINE BOARD OF INQUIRY
HALL CAINE WAS COFFIN SHIP, SAYS JUDGE
Scathing Comments On Ship Sank
In Calm Sea
"With a new hull, new engines and new masts she would have been a pretty good ship," declared Judge Curlewis in the Court of Marine Inquiry when hearing evidence relating to the foundering of the coastal steamer Hall Caine .
After evidence had been completed he said the conclusion he had come to was that she was a coffin ship and should never have gone to sea. Not the slightest blame attached to the master, mate or engineer, he added. He thought they all did very well. The Hall Caine , 213 tons, was owned by Cam & Co., of Sydney. On March 17, while on her way from Sydney to Port Macquarie, she sprang a leak. TheIdant took the crew aboard and the ship in tow, but near Broken Bay she sank.
Judge Curlewis said the inquiry was to discover why a steamer went down in a calm sea. Evidence had been given that the Hall Caine was a thoroughly patchwork job. She was 25 years old, and there had been cobra in her. She put to sea on March 15 and returned because of bad weather. The master was very lucky to get her in on that occasion, as she must have been strained.
Nevertheless, a well-found ship would not have sunk in calm water, the Judge added. The boiler was such that it was possible to have only three inches of water in the gauge glass. Otherwise the boiler would not produce the proper pressure of steam. The boilers were imperfect, the pumps were imperfect, and the hull was imperfect. "The reasons the ship sank were that the hull was rotten, the hand-pump was in bad order and not properly fitted with a strainer, and the other pumps could not be worked because the boilers could not supply sufficient steam," the
Judge remarked. "In addition, the engines were not fitted with governors. I
am glad I never went to sea in her."
Weekly Times (Melbourne, Vic. : 1869 - 1954) - Sat 8 May 1937
HALL CAIN DIVE SITEHall Caine lie off Bouddi National Park (near Killcare) at a depth of ˜54 metres.
The location is - GPS Reading of 33º 32' 49'S 151º 25' 20"E
Acknowledgements : The assistance of Mori Flapan (Mori Flapan boatregister ) by providing access to his extensive database is greatly appreciated.
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'Hall Caine' (1912 - 1937) propellerHall Caine is located off Bouddi National Park, north of the entrance to Broken Bay. Two propellers and other items can be found at the site.
DETAILS
Name: T.S.S. Hall Caine
Believed to be named after Sir Thomas Henry Hall Caine K.B.E.
Type: Twin Screw Steamer
Construction: Timber – sourced for Australian Hardwoods
Length: 131.2 ft
Beam: 29.0 ft
Depth in Hold: 7.25 ft
Engine: Two compound surface condensing – Poole and Steele Sydney of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street Sydney.
Builder: Denis Sullivan, Coopernook NSW.
Launched: 26th October 1912
Official number: ON 131549
Registered: Sydney 15 in 1913
Tonnage: n.b. 1 shipping ton = 100 cubic ft or 2.83 cu. m.)
Gross 213.88 tons.
Nett (Register) 97.56 tons (276.09 cu. m.) .
OWNERS:
1913 - 1916 Nicholas Cain (Director N. Cain's Coastal Co-op. Co. Ltd.)
1916 – 1918 John Storey Rodger
1918 - 1924 Holyman Brothers (Ltd) - Launceston
Register transferred to Melbourne – 16 of 1924
1924 - 1933 William Holyman & Sons Pty Ltd
Register transferred to Sydney 4 of 1933
1933 - 1937 Rocco Edmund Caminiti – Bondi NSW
LAUNCH 1912
Yet another boat has been sent on her way to take a place in the long line of steamers that trade from and to Sydney on the North Coast of New South Wales. This boat was launched on Saturday morning last [26th October 1912] from the shipbuilding yards of Mr. D. Sullivan, at Coopernook. Between four and five hundred persons had assembled for the occasion, and a number of them took an early position on the deck of the vessel, awaiting for her to be sent out on her maiden contact with the waters of the Manning.
The boat which is being built for Mr. N. Cain, of the Hastings River, is to trade between Wauchope and Sydney, in conjunction with the Macquarie and Ballengarra , and will, it is expected, take her place in the running early in January next. She has been built mainly for the carrying of timber, and in that connection has an average capacity for about 77,000 feet of timber. She will also take other cargo offered, but accommodation for passengers has not been included in her construction. (Brief extract from The Port Macquarie News and Hastings River Advocate Saturday 2nd November 1912) .
ARRIVAL IN SYDNEY
In tow of Messrs. J and A Browns’ tug Gamecock the hull of the new steamer Hall Caine arrived at Sydney on Friday afternoon. [15th November 1912]
She was built on the Manning River by Denis Sullivan, and is similar type as the steamer Tuncurry .
The Hall Caine which is designed for the coastal trade, brought a cargo of hardwood to Sydney. Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate Monday 18th November 1912.
FITTING OUT
The Hall Caine . — Our readers will remember some six months or so ago we published an account, of the launching of the steamer Hall Caine , at Coopernook, where her hull was built by Mr. D. Sullivan. The new steamer, which was built to the order of the N. Cain Co., will shortly be placed in commission, and will he under the command of Captain Greer, of the Ballengarra .
The Hall Caine 's engines were made by Messrs Poole and Steel, of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street, who, are also superintending the completion. The engines are twin compound — surface condensing engines, capable of driving her at the rate of nine knots an hour
when loaded. The boat is constructed of Australian hardwood, is 130 feet in length,
28ft. in breadth and 7ft 6ins. in depth.
The Manning River Times and Advocate for the Northern Coast Districts of NSW Saturday 5th April 1913 .
SOLD FOR THE TASMANIAN TRADE
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
The well-known coasting steamer Hall Caine , which has for some time past been running on the coast for Allen Taylor and Co., Ltd., has been sold to W. Holyman and Sons, Limited, of Launceston, for the Melbourne-Tasmanian trade. She is expected to leave Sydney tomorrow. The Hall Caine was originally built for Cain's
Co-operative S.S. Co.
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
Damaged crossing Bass Strait STEAMER'S MISFORTUNES.
Hall Caine Again Damaged.
On both her last two trips from Smithton (Tas) to Melbourne the small wooden
steamer Hall Caine , of 272 tons register, has met with fierce squalls in Bass Strait,
and sustained extensive damage.
The Hall Caine was put into dry dock at Williamstown yesterday with her stern bulwarks stove in by heavy seas and scattered over her decks in a disorderly mass. Captain MacDonald said yesterday that a westerly gale whipped up a choppy sea something like the rip, only more so which began to crash over the Hall Caine with monotonous regularity. As the gale increased in force, so the seas became higher and more vicious. One wave crashed up against Captain MacDonald's cabin on the bridge, stove in the port, and saturated his bunk and many of his belongings.
Another sea struck the cabin of the chief mate (Mr. Bradley) smashed the wooden walls and for the second time, swept away all his personal effects. A third sea flooded the stokehold, and the crew was forced to tend the fires in swirling water. "One sea struck us with such force, said Captain MacDonald, "that the Hall Caine shuddered from stem to stern, and for a moment I thought that the whole of the port side had gone". Captain MacDonald caused the steamer to be hove to, and for a day and a night she remained with her head to the weather. When running for shelter to Flinders, the Hall Caine ran aground, but was later refloated and after bunkering, came on to Melbourne.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Sat 14 Jul 1923
MORE PROBLEMS IN BASS STRAIT – RUDDER DAMAGED
A new rudder is being fitted to the Holyman steamer Hall Caine which is now in dry dock, and the vessel will resume her run to the Gippsland Lakes next week, sailing from Melbourne on Tuesday. Other minor repairs are being made to the steamer
while she is idle. The Hall Caine , having lost her rudder in a gale off the Victorian coast on July 21, was towed to Melbourne by the Holyman steamer Laranah . She maintains a weekly service between Melbourne and Lake Entrance, reaching this port on Sunday, and leaving again on Tuesday each week. The mishap has caused her to miss one trip.
Daily Commercial News and Shipping List (Sydney, NSW : 1891 - 1954) - Sat 4 Aug 1928
SOLD TO INTERESTS IN SYDNEY
HALL CAINE SOLD.
Supply Ship for Trawlers.
LAUNCESTON, Monday.-The steamer Hall Caine , a unit of Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons' fleet, has been sold to Messrs. Cam and Sons, Sydney, and will leave for that port in about 10 days or a fortnight. It is understood that the vessel will be used as a store ship for the fleet of trawlers owned by her new purchasers.
The Hall Caine is a wooden vessel of about 200 tons, and was built in New South Wales. She was purchased by Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons in 1919, and was engaged for a long time in the trade between Melbourne and Smithton and the Gippsland Lakes. The vessel has been laid up at Launceston for three and a half years. She is now in dock, undergoing overhaul preparatory to leaving for Sydney. n.b she arrived in Sydney on 19th July 1933.
Advocate (Burnie, Tas. : 1890 - 1954) - Tue 4 Jul 1933
HALL CAINE FOUNDERS NEAR BROKEN BAYHall Caine , which foundered off Broken
Bay last night, was fortunate to escape. The steamer Idant came to their assistance when the little vessel was about to turn turtle. The engineer noticed water in the engine room late yesterday afternoon, and although the pumps started immediately, the water gained rapidly.
Distress signals were flown and the crew watched a steamer several miles off sail on without sighting the signals.
The Hall Caine filled up rapidly. Four hours later, the Idan t appeared. The crew remained on the Hall Caine hoping that she could be beached at Broken Bay, but she suddenly took on a list and almost at the last moment the crew hurriedly launched a lifeboat. They had just reached the Idant when the Hall Caine turned turtle.
Hatches blew out with deafening reports and the little vessel disappeared, leaving a large quantity of wreckage floating in the sea.
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) - Fri 19 Mar 1937
MARINE BOARD OF INQUIRY
HALL CAINE WAS COFFIN SHIP, SAYS JUDGE
Scathing Comments On Ship Sank
In Calm Sea
"With a new hull, new engines and new masts she would have been a pretty good ship," declared Judge Curlewis in the Court of Marine Inquiry when hearing evidence relating to the foundering of the coastal steamer Hall Caine .
After evidence had been completed he said the conclusion he had come to was that she was a coffin ship and should never have gone to sea. Not the slightest blame attached to the master, mate or engineer, he added. He thought they all did very well. The Hall Caine , 213 tons, was owned by Cam & Co., of Sydney. On March 17, while on her way from Sydney to Port Macquarie, she sprang a leak. TheIdant took the crew aboard and the ship in tow, but near Broken Bay she sank.
Judge Curlewis said the inquiry was to discover why a steamer went down in a calm sea. Evidence had been given that the Hall Caine was a thoroughly patchwork job. She was 25 years old, and there had been cobra in her. She put to sea on March 15 and returned because of bad weather. The master was very lucky to get her in on that occasion, as she must have been strained.
Nevertheless, a well-found ship would not have sunk in calm water, the Judge added. The boiler was such that it was possible to have only three inches of water in the gauge glass. Otherwise the boiler would not produce the proper pressure of steam. The boilers were imperfect, the pumps were imperfect, and the hull was imperfect. "The reasons the ship sank were that the hull was rotten, the hand-pump was in bad order and not properly fitted with a strainer, and the other pumps could not be worked because the boilers could not supply sufficient steam," the
Judge remarked. "In addition, the engines were not fitted with governors. I
am glad I never went to sea in her."
Weekly Times (Melbourne, Vic. : 1869 - 1954) - Sat 8 May 1937
HALL CAIN DIVE SITEHall Caine lie off Bouddi National Park (near Killcare) at a depth of ˜54 metres.
The location is - GPS Reading of 33º 32' 49'S 151º 25' 20"E
Acknowledgements : The assistance of Mori Flapan (Mori Flapan boatregister ) by providing access to his extensive database is greatly appreciated.
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GREAT LAKES MANNING RIVER SHIPPING, NSW Alphabetical Boat Index Boat builders Index Tags List
'HALL CAINE' CAM & Sons Ltd. advising of foundering of vesselDETAILS
Name: T.S.S. Hall Caine
Believed to be named after Sir Thomas Henry Hall Caine K.B.E.
Type: Twin Screw Steamer
Construction: Timber – sourced for Australian Hardwoods
Length: 131.2 ft
Beam: 29.0 ft
Depth in Hold: 7.25 ft
Engine: Two compound surface condensing – Poole and Steele Sydney of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street Sydney.
Builder: Denis Sullivan, Coopernook NSW.
Launched: 26th October 1912
Official number: ON 131549
Registered: Sydney 15 in 1913
Tonnage: n.b. 1 shipping ton = 100 cubic ft or 2.83 cu. m.)
Gross 213.88 tons.
Nett (Register) 97.56 tons (276.09 cu. m.) .
OWNERS:
1913 - 1916 Nicholas Cain (Director N. Cain's Coastal Co-op. Co. Ltd.)
1916 – 1918 John Storey Rodger
1918 - 1924 Holyman Brothers (Ltd) - Launceston
Register transferred to Melbourne – 16 of 1924
1924 - 1933 William Holyman & Sons Pty Ltd
Register transferred to Sydney 4 of 1933
1933 - 1937 Rocco Edmund Caminiti – Bondi NSW
LAUNCH 1912
Yet another boat has been sent on her way to take a place in the long line of steamers that trade from and to Sydney on the North Coast of New South Wales. This boat was launched on Saturday morning last [26th October 1912] from the shipbuilding yards of Mr. D. Sullivan, at Coopernook. Between four and five hundred persons had assembled for the occasion, and a number of them took an early position on the deck of the vessel, awaiting for her to be sent out on her maiden contact with the waters of the Manning.
The boat which is being built for Mr. N. Cain, of the Hastings River, is to trade between Wauchope and Sydney, in conjunction with the Macquarie and Ballengarra , and will, it is expected, take her place in the running early in January next. She has been built mainly for the carrying of timber, and in that connection has an average capacity for about 77,000 feet of timber. She will also take other cargo offered, but accommodation for passengers has not been included in her construction. (Brief extract from The Port Macquarie News and Hastings River Advocate Saturday 2nd November 1912) .
ARRIVAL IN SYDNEY
In tow of Messrs. J and A Browns’ tug Gamecock the hull of the new steamer Hall Caine arrived at Sydney on Friday afternoon. [15th November 1912]
She was built on the Manning River by Denis Sullivan, and is similar type as the steamer Tuncurry .
The Hall Caine which is designed for the coastal trade, brought a cargo of hardwood to Sydney. Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate Monday 18th November 1912.
FITTING OUT
The Hall Caine . — Our readers will remember some six months or so ago we published an account, of the launching of the steamer Hall Caine , at Coopernook, where her hull was built by Mr. D. Sullivan. The new steamer, which was built to the order of the N. Cain Co., will shortly be placed in commission, and will he under the command of Captain Greer, of the Ballengarra .
The Hall Caine 's engines were made by Messrs Poole and Steel, of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street, who, are also superintending the completion. The engines are twin compound — surface condensing engines, capable of driving her at the rate of nine knots an hour
when loaded. The boat is constructed of Australian hardwood, is 130 feet in length,
28ft. in breadth and 7ft 6ins. in depth.
The Manning River Times and Advocate for the Northern Coast Districts of NSW Saturday 5th April 1913 .
SOLD FOR THE TASMANIAN TRADE
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
The well-known coasting steamer Hall Caine , which has for some time past been running on the coast for Allen Taylor and Co., Ltd., has been sold to W. Holyman and Sons, Limited, of Launceston, for the Melbourne-Tasmanian trade. She is expected to leave Sydney tomorrow. The Hall Caine was originally built for Cain's
Co-operative S.S. Co.
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
Damaged crossing Bass Strait STEAMER'S MISFORTUNES.
Hall Caine Again Damaged.
On both her last two trips from Smithton (Tas) to Melbourne the small wooden
steamer Hall Caine , of 272 tons register, has met with fierce squalls in Bass Strait,
and sustained extensive damage.
The Hall Caine was put into dry dock at Williamstown yesterday with her stern bulwarks stove in by heavy seas and scattered over her decks in a disorderly mass. Captain MacDonald said yesterday that a westerly gale whipped up a choppy sea something like the rip, only more so which began to crash over the Hall Caine with monotonous regularity. As the gale increased in force, so the seas became higher and more vicious. One wave crashed up against Captain MacDonald's cabin on the bridge, stove in the port, and saturated his bunk and many of his belongings.
Another sea struck the cabin of the chief mate (Mr. Bradley) smashed the wooden walls and for the second time, swept away all his personal effects. A third sea flooded the stokehold, and the crew was forced to tend the fires in swirling water. "One sea struck us with such force, said Captain MacDonald, "that the Hall Caine shuddered from stem to stern, and for a moment I thought that the whole of the port side had gone". Captain MacDonald caused the steamer to be hove to, and for a day and a night she remained with her head to the weather. When running for shelter to Flinders, the Hall Caine ran aground, but was later refloated and after bunkering, came on to Melbourne.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Sat 14 Jul 1923
MORE PROBLEMS IN BASS STRAIT – RUDDER DAMAGED
A new rudder is being fitted to the Holyman steamer Hall Caine which is now in dry dock, and the vessel will resume her run to the Gippsland Lakes next week, sailing from Melbourne on Tuesday. Other minor repairs are being made to the steamer
while she is idle. The Hall Caine , having lost her rudder in a gale off the Victorian coast on July 21, was towed to Melbourne by the Holyman steamer Laranah . She maintains a weekly service between Melbourne and Lake Entrance, reaching this port on Sunday, and leaving again on Tuesday each week. The mishap has caused her to miss one trip.
Daily Commercial News and Shipping List (Sydney, NSW : 1891 - 1954) - Sat 4 Aug 1928
SOLD TO INTERESTS IN SYDNEY
HALL CAINE SOLD.
Supply Ship for Trawlers.
LAUNCESTON, Monday.-The steamer Hall Caine , a unit of Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons' fleet, has been sold to Messrs. Cam and Sons, Sydney, and will leave for that port in about 10 days or a fortnight. It is understood that the vessel will be used as a store ship for the fleet of trawlers owned by her new purchasers.
The Hall Caine is a wooden vessel of about 200 tons, and was built in New South Wales. She was purchased by Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons in 1919, and was engaged for a long time in the trade between Melbourne and Smithton and the Gippsland Lakes. The vessel has been laid up at Launceston for three and a half years. She is now in dock, undergoing overhaul preparatory to leaving for Sydney. n.b she arrived in Sydney on 19th July 1933.
Advocate (Burnie, Tas. : 1890 - 1954) - Tue 4 Jul 1933
HALL CAINE FOUNDERS NEAR BROKEN BAYHall Caine , which foundered off Broken
Bay last night, was fortunate to escape. The steamer Idant came to their assistance when the little vessel was about to turn turtle. The engineer noticed water in the engine room late yesterday afternoon, and although the pumps started immediately, the water gained rapidly.
Distress signals were flown and the crew watched a steamer several miles off sail on without sighting the signals.
The Hall Caine filled up rapidly. Four hours later, the Idan t appeared. The crew remained on the Hall Caine hoping that she could be beached at Broken Bay, but she suddenly took on a list and almost at the last moment the crew hurriedly launched a lifeboat. They had just reached the Idant when the Hall Caine turned turtle.
Hatches blew out with deafening reports and the little vessel disappeared, leaving a large quantity of wreckage floating in the sea.
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) - Fri 19 Mar 1937
MARINE BOARD OF INQUIRY
HALL CAINE WAS COFFIN SHIP, SAYS JUDGE
Scathing Comments On Ship Sank
In Calm Sea
"With a new hull, new engines and new masts she would have been a pretty good ship," declared Judge Curlewis in the Court of Marine Inquiry when hearing evidence relating to the foundering of the coastal steamer Hall Caine .
After evidence had been completed he said the conclusion he had come to was that she was a coffin ship and should never have gone to sea. Not the slightest blame attached to the master, mate or engineer, he added. He thought they all did very well. The Hall Caine , 213 tons, was owned by Cam & Co., of Sydney. On March 17, while on her way from Sydney to Port Macquarie, she sprang a leak. TheIdant took the crew aboard and the ship in tow, but near Broken Bay she sank.
Judge Curlewis said the inquiry was to discover why a steamer went down in a calm sea. Evidence had been given that the Hall Caine was a thoroughly patchwork job. She was 25 years old, and there had been cobra in her. She put to sea on March 15 and returned because of bad weather. The master was very lucky to get her in on that occasion, as she must have been strained.
Nevertheless, a well-found ship would not have sunk in calm water, the Judge added. The boiler was such that it was possible to have only three inches of water in the gauge glass. Otherwise the boiler would not produce the proper pressure of steam. The boilers were imperfect, the pumps were imperfect, and the hull was imperfect. "The reasons the ship sank were that the hull was rotten, the hand-pump was in bad order and not properly fitted with a strainer, and the other pumps could not be worked because the boilers could not supply sufficient steam," the
Judge remarked. "In addition, the engines were not fitted with governors. I
am glad I never went to sea in her."
Weekly Times (Melbourne, Vic. : 1869 - 1954) - Sat 8 May 1937
HALL CAIN DIVE SITEHall Caine lie off Bouddi National Park (near Killcare) at a depth of ˜54 metres.
The location is - GPS Reading of 33º 32' 49'S 151º 25' 20"E
Acknowledgements : The assistance of Mori Flapan (Mori Flapan boatregister ) by providing access to his extensive database is greatly appreciated.
Image Source : Note attached to Register
Image Enhancement: Philip Pope
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'Hall Caine' Survivors from the sinking vessel in 1937DETAILS
Name: T.S.S. Hall Caine
Believed to be named after Sir Thomas Henry Hall Caine K.B.E.
Type: Twin Screw Steamer
Construction: Timber – sourced for Australian Hardwoods
Length: 131.2 ft
Beam: 29.0 ft
Depth in Hold: 7.25 ft
Engine: Two compound surface condensing – Poole and Steele Sydney of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street Sydney.
Builder: Denis Sullivan, Coopernook NSW.
Launched: 26th October 1912
Official number: ON 131549
Registered: Sydney 15 in 1913
Tonnage: n.b. 1 shipping ton = 100 cubic ft or 2.83 cu. m.)
Gross 213.88 tons.
Nett (Register) 97.56 tons (276.09 cu. m.) .
OWNERS:
1913 - 1916 Nicholas Cain (Director N. Cain's Coastal Co-op. Co. Ltd.)
1916 – 1918 John Storey Rodger
1918 - 1924 Holyman Brothers (Ltd) - Launceston
Register transferred to Melbourne – 16 of 1924
1924 - 1933 William Holyman & Sons Pty Ltd
Register transferred to Sydney 4 of 1933
1933 - 1937 Rocco Edmund Caminiti – Bondi NSW
LAUNCH 1912
Yet another boat has been sent on her way to take a place in the long line of steamers that trade from and to Sydney on the North Coast of New South Wales. This boat was launched on Saturday morning last [26th October 1912] from the shipbuilding yards of Mr. D. Sullivan, at Coopernook. Between four and five hundred persons had assembled for the occasion, and a number of them took an early position on the deck of the vessel, awaiting for her to be sent out on her maiden contact with the waters of the Manning.
The boat which is being built for Mr. N. Cain, of the Hastings River, is to trade between Wauchope and Sydney, in conjunction with the Macquarie and Ballengarra , and will, it is expected, take her place in the running early in January next. She has been built mainly for the carrying of timber, and in that connection has an average capacity for about 77,000 feet of timber. She will also take other cargo offered, but accommodation for passengers has not been included in her construction. (Brief extract from The Port Macquarie News and Hastings River Advocate Saturday 2nd November 1912) .
ARRIVAL IN SYDNEY
In tow of Messrs. J and A Browns’ tug Gamecock the hull of the new steamer Hall Caine arrived at Sydney on Friday afternoon. [15th November 1912]
She was built on the Manning River by Denis Sullivan, and is similar type as the steamer Tuncurry .
The Hall Caine which is designed for the coastal trade, brought a cargo of hardwood to Sydney. Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate Monday 18th November 1912.
FITTING OUT
The Hall Caine . — Our readers will remember some six months or so ago we published an account, of the launching of the steamer Hall Caine , at Coopernook, where her hull was built by Mr. D. Sullivan. The new steamer, which was built to the order of the N. Cain Co., will shortly be placed in commission, and will he under the command of Captain Greer, of the Ballengarra .
The Hall Caine 's engines were made by Messrs Poole and Steel, of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street, who, are also superintending the completion. The engines are twin compound — surface condensing engines, capable of driving her at the rate of nine knots an hour
when loaded. The boat is constructed of Australian hardwood, is 130 feet in length,
28ft. in breadth and 7ft 6ins. in depth.
The Manning River Times and Advocate for the Northern Coast Districts of NSW Saturday 5th April 1913 .
SOLD FOR THE TASMANIAN TRADE
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
The well-known coasting steamer Hall Caine , which has for some time past been running on the coast for Allen Taylor and Co., Ltd., has been sold to W. Holyman and Sons, Limited, of Launceston, for the Melbourne-Tasmanian trade. She is expected to leave Sydney tomorrow. The Hall Caine was originally built for Cain's
Co-operative S.S. Co.
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
Damaged crossing Bass Strait STEAMER'S MISFORTUNES.
Hall Caine Again Damaged.
On both her last two trips from Smithton (Tas) to Melbourne the small wooden
steamer Hall Caine , of 272 tons register, has met with fierce squalls in Bass Strait,
and sustained extensive damage.
The Hall Caine was put into dry dock at Williamstown yesterday with her stern bulwarks stove in by heavy seas and scattered over her decks in a disorderly mass. Captain MacDonald said yesterday that a westerly gale whipped up a choppy sea something like the rip, only more so which began to crash over the Hall Caine with monotonous regularity. As the gale increased in force, so the seas became higher and more vicious. One wave crashed up against Captain MacDonald's cabin on the bridge, stove in the port, and saturated his bunk and many of his belongings.
Another sea struck the cabin of the chief mate (Mr. Bradley) smashed the wooden walls and for the second time, swept away all his personal effects. A third sea flooded the stokehold, and the crew was forced to tend the fires in swirling water. "One sea struck us with such force, said Captain MacDonald, "that the Hall Caine shuddered from stem to stern, and for a moment I thought that the whole of the port side had gone". Captain MacDonald caused the steamer to be hove to, and for a day and a night she remained with her head to the weather. When running for shelter to Flinders, the Hall Caine ran aground, but was later refloated and after bunkering, came on to Melbourne.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Sat 14 Jul 1923
MORE PROBLEMS IN BASS STRAIT – RUDDER DAMAGED
A new rudder is being fitted to the Holyman steamer Hall Caine which is now in dry dock, and the vessel will resume her run to the Gippsland Lakes next week, sailing from Melbourne on Tuesday. Other minor repairs are being made to the steamer
while she is idle. The Hall Caine , having lost her rudder in a gale off the Victorian coast on July 21, was towed to Melbourne by the Holyman steamer Laranah . She maintains a weekly service between Melbourne and Lake Entrance, reaching this port on Sunday, and leaving again on Tuesday each week. The mishap has caused her to miss one trip.
Daily Commercial News and Shipping List (Sydney, NSW : 1891 - 1954) - Sat 4 Aug 1928
SOLD TO INTERESTS IN SYDNEY
HALL CAINE SOLD.
Supply Ship for Trawlers.
LAUNCESTON, Monday.-The steamer Hall Caine , a unit of Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons' fleet, has been sold to Messrs. Cam and Sons, Sydney, and will leave for that port in about 10 days or a fortnight. It is understood that the vessel will be used as a store ship for the fleet of trawlers owned by her new purchasers.
The Hall Caine is a wooden vessel of about 200 tons, and was built in New South Wales. She was purchased by Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons in 1919, and was engaged for a long time in the trade between Melbourne and Smithton and the Gippsland Lakes. The vessel has been laid up at Launceston for three and a half years. She is now in dock, undergoing overhaul preparatory to leaving for Sydney. n.b she arrived in Sydney on 19th July 1933.
Advocate (Burnie, Tas. : 1890 - 1954) - Tue 4 Jul 1933
HALL CAINE FOUNDERS NEAR BROKEN BAYHall Caine , which foundered off Broken
Bay last night, was fortunate to escape. The steamer Idant came to their assistance when the little vessel was about to turn turtle. The engineer noticed water in the engine room late yesterday afternoon, and although the pumps started immediately, the water gained rapidly.
Distress signals were flown and the crew watched a steamer several miles off sail on without sighting the signals.
The Hall Caine filled up rapidly. Four hours later, the Idan t appeared. The crew remained on the Hall Caine hoping that she could be beached at Broken Bay, but she suddenly took on a list and almost at the last moment the crew hurriedly launched a lifeboat. They had just reached the Idant when the Hall Caine turned turtle.
Hatches blew out with deafening reports and the little vessel disappeared, leaving a large quantity of wreckage floating in the sea.
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) - Fri 19 Mar 1937
MARINE BOARD OF INQUIRY
HALL CAINE WAS COFFIN SHIP, SAYS JUDGE
Scathing Comments On Ship Sank
In Calm Sea
"With a new hull, new engines and new masts she would have been a pretty good ship," declared Judge Curlewis in the Court of Marine Inquiry when hearing evidence relating to the foundering of the coastal steamer Hall Caine .
After evidence had been completed he said the conclusion he had come to was that she was a coffin ship and should never have gone to sea. Not the slightest blame attached to the master, mate or engineer, he added. He thought they all did very well. The Hall Caine , 213 tons, was owned by Cam & Co., of Sydney. On March 17, while on her way from Sydney to Port Macquarie, she sprang a leak. TheIdant took the crew aboard and the ship in tow, but near Broken Bay she sank.
Judge Curlewis said the inquiry was to discover why a steamer went down in a calm sea. Evidence had been given that the Hall Caine was a thoroughly patchwork job. She was 25 years old, and there had been cobra in her. She put to sea on March 15 and returned because of bad weather. The master was very lucky to get her in on that occasion, as she must have been strained.
Nevertheless, a well-found ship would not have sunk in calm water, the Judge added. The boiler was such that it was possible to have only three inches of water in the gauge glass. Otherwise the boiler would not produce the proper pressure of steam. The boilers were imperfect, the pumps were imperfect, and the hull was imperfect. "The reasons the ship sank were that the hull was rotten, the hand-pump was in bad order and not properly fitted with a strainer, and the other pumps could not be worked because the boilers could not supply sufficient steam," the
Judge remarked. "In addition, the engines were not fitted with governors. I
am glad I never went to sea in her."
Weekly Times (Melbourne, Vic. : 1869 - 1954) - Sat 8 May 1937
HALL CAIN DIVE SITEHall Caine lie off Bouddi National Park (near Killcare) at a depth of ˜54 metres.
The location is - GPS Reading of 33º 32' 49'S 151º 25' 20"E
Acknowledgements : The assistance of Mori Flapan (Mori Flapan boatregister ) by providing access to his extensive database is greatly appreciated.
Image Source : Article in The Sun (Sydney) 18th March 1937
Image Enhancement: Philip Pope
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GREAT LAKES MANNING RIVER SHIPPING, NSW Alphabetical Boat Index Boat builders Index Tags List
'Hall Caine' Sydney Registration cancelledDETAILS
Name: T.S.S. Hall Caine
Believed to be named after Sir Thomas Henry Hall Caine K.B.E.
Type: Twin Screw Steamer
Construction: Timber – sourced for Australian Hardwoods
Length: 131.2 ft
Beam: 29.0 ft
Depth in Hold: 7.25 ft
Engine: Two compound surface condensing – Poole and Steele Sydney of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street Sydney.
Builder: Denis Sullivan, Coopernook NSW.
Launched: 26th October 1912
Official number: ON 131549
Registered: Sydney 15 in 1913
Tonnage: n.b. 1 shipping ton = 100 cubic ft or 2.83 cu. m.)
Gross 213.88 tons.
Nett (Register) 97.56 tons (276.09 cu. m.) .
OWNERS:
1913 - 1916 Nicholas Cain (Director N. Cain's Coastal Co-op. Co. Ltd.)
1916 – 1918 John Storey Rodger
1918 - 1924 Holyman Brothers (Ltd) - Launceston
Register transferred to Melbourne – 16 of 1924
1924 - 1933 William Holyman & Sons Pty Ltd
Register transferred to Sydney 4 of 1933
1933 - 1937 Rocco Edmund Caminiti – Bondi NSW
LAUNCH 1912
Yet another boat has been sent on her way to take a place in the long line of steamers that trade from and to Sydney on the North Coast of New South Wales. This boat was launched on Saturday morning last [26th October 1912] from the shipbuilding yards of Mr. D. Sullivan, at Coopernook. Between four and five hundred persons had assembled for the occasion, and a number of them took an early position on the deck of the vessel, awaiting for her to be sent out on her maiden contact with the waters of the Manning.
The boat which is being built for Mr. N. Cain, of the Hastings River, is to trade between Wauchope and Sydney, in conjunction with the Macquarie and Ballengarra , and will, it is expected, take her place in the running early in January next. She has been built mainly for the carrying of timber, and in that connection has an average capacity for about 77,000 feet of timber. She will also take other cargo offered, but accommodation for passengers has not been included in her construction. (Brief extract from The Port Macquarie News and Hastings River Advocate Saturday 2nd November 1912) .
ARRIVAL IN SYDNEY
In tow of Messrs. J and A Browns’ tug Gamecock the hull of the new steamer Hall Caine arrived at Sydney on Friday afternoon. [15th November 1912]
She was built on the Manning River by Denis Sullivan, and is similar type as the steamer Tuncurry .
The Hall Caine which is designed for the coastal trade, brought a cargo of hardwood to Sydney. Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate Monday 18th November 1912.
FITTING OUT
The Hall Caine . — Our readers will remember some six months or so ago we published an account, of the launching of the steamer Hall Caine , at Coopernook, where her hull was built by Mr. D. Sullivan. The new steamer, which was built to the order of the N. Cain Co., will shortly be placed in commission, and will he under the command of Captain Greer, of the Ballengarra .
The Hall Caine 's engines were made by Messrs Poole and Steel, of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street, who, are also superintending the completion. The engines are twin compound — surface condensing engines, capable of driving her at the rate of nine knots an hour
when loaded. The boat is constructed of Australian hardwood, is 130 feet in length,
28ft. in breadth and 7ft 6ins. in depth.
The Manning River Times and Advocate for the Northern Coast Districts of NSW Saturday 5th April 1913 .
SOLD FOR THE TASMANIAN TRADE
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
The well-known coasting steamer Hall Caine , which has for some time past been running on the coast for Allen Taylor and Co., Ltd., has been sold to W. Holyman and Sons, Limited, of Launceston, for the Melbourne-Tasmanian trade. She is expected to leave Sydney tomorrow. The Hall Caine was originally built for Cain's
Co-operative S.S. Co.
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
Damaged crossing Bass Strait STEAMER'S MISFORTUNES.
Hall Caine Again Damaged.
On both her last two trips from Smithton (Tas) to Melbourne the small wooden
steamer Hall Caine , of 272 tons register, has met with fierce squalls in Bass Strait,
and sustained extensive damage.
The Hall Caine was put into dry dock at Williamstown yesterday with her stern bulwarks stove in by heavy seas and scattered over her decks in a disorderly mass. Captain MacDonald said yesterday that a westerly gale whipped up a choppy sea something like the rip, only more so which began to crash over the Hall Caine with monotonous regularity. As the gale increased in force, so the seas became higher and more vicious. One wave crashed up against Captain MacDonald's cabin on the bridge, stove in the port, and saturated his bunk and many of his belongings.
Another sea struck the cabin of the chief mate (Mr. Bradley) smashed the wooden walls and for the second time, swept away all his personal effects. A third sea flooded the stokehold, and the crew was forced to tend the fires in swirling water. "One sea struck us with such force, said Captain MacDonald, "that the Hall Caine shuddered from stem to stern, and for a moment I thought that the whole of the port side had gone". Captain MacDonald caused the steamer to be hove to, and for a day and a night she remained with her head to the weather. When running for shelter to Flinders, the Hall Caine ran aground, but was later refloated and after bunkering, came on to Melbourne.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Sat 14 Jul 1923
MORE PROBLEMS IN BASS STRAIT – RUDDER DAMAGED
A new rudder is being fitted to the Holyman steamer Hall Caine which is now in dry dock, and the vessel will resume her run to the Gippsland Lakes next week, sailing from Melbourne on Tuesday. Other minor repairs are being made to the steamer
while she is idle. The Hall Caine , having lost her rudder in a gale off the Victorian coast on July 21, was towed to Melbourne by the Holyman steamer Laranah . She maintains a weekly service between Melbourne and Lake Entrance, reaching this port on Sunday, and leaving again on Tuesday each week. The mishap has caused her to miss one trip.
Daily Commercial News and Shipping List (Sydney, NSW : 1891 - 1954) - Sat 4 Aug 1928
SOLD TO INTERESTS IN SYDNEY
HALL CAINE SOLD.
Supply Ship for Trawlers.
LAUNCESTON, Monday.-The steamer Hall Caine , a unit of Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons' fleet, has been sold to Messrs. Cam and Sons, Sydney, and will leave for that port in about 10 days or a fortnight. It is understood that the vessel will be used as a store ship for the fleet of trawlers owned by her new purchasers.
The Hall Caine is a wooden vessel of about 200 tons, and was built in New South Wales. She was purchased by Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons in 1919, and was engaged for a long time in the trade between Melbourne and Smithton and the Gippsland Lakes. The vessel has been laid up at Launceston for three and a half years. She is now in dock, undergoing overhaul preparatory to leaving for Sydney. n.b she arrived in Sydney on 19th July 1933.
Advocate (Burnie, Tas. : 1890 - 1954) - Tue 4 Jul 1933
HALL CAINE FOUNDERS NEAR BROKEN BAYHall Caine , which foundered off Broken
Bay last night, was fortunate to escape. The steamer Idant came to their assistance when the little vessel was about to turn turtle. The engineer noticed water in the engine room late yesterday afternoon, and although the pumps started immediately, the water gained rapidly.
Distress signals were flown and the crew watched a steamer several miles off sail on without sighting the signals.
The Hall Caine filled up rapidly. Four hours later, the Idan t appeared. The crew remained on the Hall Caine hoping that she could be beached at Broken Bay, but she suddenly took on a list and almost at the last moment the crew hurriedly launched a lifeboat. They had just reached the Idant when the Hall Caine turned turtle.
Hatches blew out with deafening reports and the little vessel disappeared, leaving a large quantity of wreckage floating in the sea.
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) - Fri 19 Mar 1937
MARINE BOARD OF INQUIRY
HALL CAINE WAS COFFIN SHIP, SAYS JUDGE
Scathing Comments On Ship Sank
In Calm Sea
"With a new hull, new engines and new masts she would have been a pretty good ship," declared Judge Curlewis in the Court of Marine Inquiry when hearing evidence relating to the foundering of the coastal steamer Hall Caine .
After evidence had been completed he said the conclusion he had come to was that she was a coffin ship and should never have gone to sea. Not the slightest blame attached to the master, mate or engineer, he added. He thought they all did very well. The Hall Caine , 213 tons, was owned by Cam & Co., of Sydney. On March 17, while on her way from Sydney to Port Macquarie, she sprang a leak. TheIdant took the crew aboard and the ship in tow, but near Broken Bay she sank.
Judge Curlewis said the inquiry was to discover why a steamer went down in a calm sea. Evidence had been given that the Hall Caine was a thoroughly patchwork job. She was 25 years old, and there had been cobra in her. She put to sea on March 15 and returned because of bad weather. The master was very lucky to get her in on that occasion, as she must have been strained.
Nevertheless, a well-found ship would not have sunk in calm water, the Judge added. The boiler was such that it was possible to have only three inches of water in the gauge glass. Otherwise the boiler would not produce the proper pressure of steam. The boilers were imperfect, the pumps were imperfect, and the hull was imperfect. "The reasons the ship sank were that the hull was rotten, the hand-pump was in bad order and not properly fitted with a strainer, and the other pumps could not be worked because the boilers could not supply sufficient steam," the
Judge remarked. "In addition, the engines were not fitted with governors. I
am glad I never went to sea in her."
Weekly Times (Melbourne, Vic. : 1869 - 1954) - Sat 8 May 1937
HALL CAIN DIVE SITEHall Caine lie off Bouddi National Park (near Killcare) at a depth of ˜54 metres.
The location is - GPS Reading of 33º 32' 49'S 151º 25' 20"E
Acknowledgements : The assistance of Mori Flapan (Mori Flapan boatregister ) by providing access to his extensive database is greatly appreciated.
Image Source : Memorandum attached to Register
Image Enhancement Philip Pope
Dive data : www.michaelmcfadyenscuba.info/viewpage.php?page_id=152
www.prodivecentralcoast.com.au/en/central-coast-wreck-diving
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'HALL CAINE' (1912 - 1937) - painting (nb mispelling)DETAILS
Name: T.S.S. Hall Caine
Believed to be named after Sir Thomas Henry Hall Caine K.B.E.
Type: Twin Screw Steamer
Construction: Timber – sourced for Australian Hardwoods
Length: 131.2 ft
Beam: 29.0 ft
Depth in Hold: 7.25 ft
Engine: Two compound surface condensing – Poole and Steele Sydney of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street Sydney.
Builder: Denis Sullivan, Coopernook NSW.
Launched: 26th October 1912
Official number: ON 131549
Registered: Sydney 15 in 1913
Tonnage: n.b. 1 shipping ton = 100 cubic ft or 2.83 cu. m.)
Gross 213.88 tons.
Nett (Register) 97.56 tons (276.09 cu. m.) .
OWNERS:
1913 - 1916 Nicholas Cain (Director N. Cain's Coastal Co-op. Co. Ltd.)
1916 – 1918 John Storey Rodger
1918 - 1924 Holyman Brothers (Ltd) - Launceston
Register transferred to Melbourne – 16 of 1924
1924 - 1933 William Holyman & Sons Pty Ltd
Register transferred to Sydney 4 of 1933
1933 - 1937 Rocco Edmund Caminiti – Bondi NSW
LAUNCH 1912
Yet another boat has been sent on her way to take a place in the long line of steamers that trade from and to Sydney on the North Coast of New South Wales. This boat was launched on Saturday morning last [26th October 1912] from the shipbuilding yards of Mr. D. Sullivan, at Coopernook. Between four and five hundred persons had assembled for the occasion, and a number of them took an early position on the deck of the vessel, awaiting for her to be sent out on her maiden contact with the waters of the Manning.
The boat which is being built for Mr. N. Cain, of the Hastings River, is to trade between Wauchope and Sydney, in conjunction with the Macquarie and Ballengarra , and will, it is expected, take her place in the running early in January next. She has been built mainly for the carrying of timber, and in that connection has an average capacity for about 77,000 feet of timber. She will also take other cargo offered, but accommodation for passengers has not been included in her construction. (Brief extract from The Port Macquarie News and Hastings River Advocate Saturday 2nd November 1912) .
ARRIVAL IN SYDNEY
In tow of Messrs. J and A Browns’ tug Gamecock the hull of the new steamer Hall Caine arrived at Sydney on Friday afternoon. [15th November 1912]
She was built on the Manning River by Denis Sullivan, and is similar type as the steamer Tuncurry .
The Hall Caine which is designed for the coastal trade, brought a cargo of hardwood to Sydney. Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate Monday 18th November 1912.
FITTING OUT
The Hall Caine . — Our readers will remember some six months or so ago we published an account, of the launching of the steamer Hall Caine , at Coopernook, where her hull was built by Mr. D. Sullivan. The new steamer, which was built to the order of the N. Cain Co., will shortly be placed in commission, and will he under the command of Captain Greer, of the Ballengarra .
The Hall Caine 's engines were made by Messrs Poole and Steel, of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street, who, are also superintending the completion. The engines are twin compound — surface condensing engines, capable of driving her at the rate of nine knots an hour
when loaded. The boat is constructed of Australian hardwood, is 130 feet in length,
28ft. in breadth and 7ft 6ins. in depth.
The Manning River Times and Advocate for the Northern Coast Districts of NSW Saturday 5th April 1913 .
SOLD FOR THE TASMANIAN TRADE
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
The well-known coasting steamer Hall Caine , which has for some time past been running on the coast for Allen Taylor and Co., Ltd., has been sold to W. Holyman and Sons, Limited, of Launceston, for the Melbourne-Tasmanian trade. She is expected to leave Sydney tomorrow. The Hall Caine was originally built for Cain's
Co-operative S.S. Co.
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
Damaged crossing Bass Strait STEAMER'S MISFORTUNES.
Hall Caine Again Damaged.
On both her last two trips from Smithton (Tas) to Melbourne the small wooden
steamer Hall Caine , of 272 tons register, has met with fierce squalls in Bass Strait,
and sustained extensive damage.
The Hall Caine was put into dry dock at Williamstown yesterday with her stern bulwarks stove in by heavy seas and scattered over her decks in a disorderly mass. Captain MacDonald said yesterday that a westerly gale whipped up a choppy sea something like the rip, only more so which began to crash over the Hall Caine with monotonous regularity. As the gale increased in force, so the seas became higher and more vicious. One wave crashed up against Captain MacDonald's cabin on the bridge, stove in the port, and saturated his bunk and many of his belongings.
Another sea struck the cabin of the chief mate (Mr. Bradley) smashed the wooden walls and for the second time, swept away all his personal effects. A third sea flooded the stokehold, and the crew was forced to tend the fires in swirling water. "One sea struck us with such force, said Captain MacDonald, "that the Hall Caine shuddered from stem to stern, and for a moment I thought that the whole of the port side had gone". Captain MacDonald caused the steamer to be hove to, and for a day and a night she remained with her head to the weather. When running for shelter to Flinders, the Hall Caine ran aground, but was later refloated and after bunkering, came on to Melbourne.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Sat 14 Jul 1923
MORE PROBLEMS IN BASS STRAIT – RUDDER DAMAGED
A new rudder is being fitted to the Holyman steamer Hall Caine which is now in dry dock, and the vessel will resume her run to the Gippsland Lakes next week, sailing from Melbourne on Tuesday. Other minor repairs are being made to the steamer
while she is idle. The Hall Caine , having lost her rudder in a gale off the Victorian coast on July 21, was towed to Melbourne by the Holyman steamer Laranah . She maintains a weekly service between Melbourne and Lake Entrance, reaching this port on Sunday, and leaving again on Tuesday each week. The mishap has caused her to miss one trip.
Daily Commercial News and Shipping List (Sydney, NSW : 1891 - 1954) - Sat 4 Aug 1928
SOLD TO INTERESTS IN SYDNEY
HALL CAINE SOLD.
Supply Ship for Trawlers.
LAUNCESTON, Monday.-The steamer Hall Caine , a unit of Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons' fleet, has been sold to Messrs. Cam and Sons, Sydney, and will leave for that port in about 10 days or a fortnight. It is understood that the vessel will be used as a store ship for the fleet of trawlers owned by her new purchasers.
The Hall Caine is a wooden vessel of about 200 tons, and was built in New South Wales. She was purchased by Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons in 1919, and was engaged for a long time in the trade between Melbourne and Smithton and the Gippsland Lakes. The vessel has been laid up at Launceston for three and a half years. She is now in dock, undergoing overhaul preparatory to leaving for Sydney. n.b she arrived in Sydney on 19th July 1933.
Advocate (Burnie, Tas. : 1890 - 1954) - Tue 4 Jul 1933
HALL CAINE FOUNDERS NEAR BROKEN BAYHall Caine , which foundered off Broken
Bay last night, was fortunate to escape. The steamer Idant came to their assistance when the little vessel was about to turn turtle. The engineer noticed water in the engine room late yesterday afternoon, and although the pumps started immediately, the water gained rapidly.
Distress signals were flown and the crew watched a steamer several miles off sail on without sighting the signals.
The Hall Caine filled up rapidly. Four hours later, the Idan t appeared. The crew remained on the Hall Caine hoping that she could be beached at Broken Bay, but she suddenly took on a list and almost at the last moment the crew hurriedly launched a lifeboat. They had just reached the Idant when the Hall Caine turned turtle.
Hatches blew out with deafening reports and the little vessel disappeared, leaving a large quantity of wreckage floating in the sea.
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) - Fri 19 Mar 1937
MARINE BOARD OF INQUIRY
HALL CAINE WAS COFFIN SHIP, SAYS JUDGE
Scathing Comments On Ship Sank
In Calm Sea
"With a new hull, new engines and new masts she would have been a pretty good ship," declared Judge Curlewis in the Court of Marine Inquiry when hearing evidence relating to the foundering of the coastal steamer Hall Caine .
After evidence had been completed he said the conclusion he had come to was that she was a coffin ship and should never have gone to sea. Not the slightest blame attached to the master, mate or engineer, he added. He thought they all did very well. The Hall Caine , 213 tons, was owned by Cam & Co., of Sydney. On March 17, while on her way from Sydney to Port Macquarie, she sprang a leak. TheIdant took the crew aboard and the ship in tow, but near Broken Bay she sank.
Judge Curlewis said the inquiry was to discover why a steamer went down in a calm sea. Evidence had been given that the Hall Caine was a thoroughly patchwork job. She was 25 years old, and there had been cobra in her. She put to sea on March 15 and returned because of bad weather. The master was very lucky to get her in on that occasion, as she must have been strained.
Nevertheless, a well-found ship would not have sunk in calm water, the Judge added. The boiler was such that it was possible to have only three inches of water in the gauge glass. Otherwise the boiler would not produce the proper pressure of steam. The boilers were imperfect, the pumps were imperfect, and the hull was imperfect. "The reasons the ship sank were that the hull was rotten, the hand-pump was in bad order and not properly fitted with a strainer, and the other pumps could not be worked because the boilers could not supply sufficient steam," the
Judge remarked. "In addition, the engines were not fitted with governors. I
am glad I never went to sea in her."
Weekly Times (Melbourne, Vic. : 1869 - 1954) - Sat 8 May 1937
HALL CAIN DIVE SITEHall Caine lie off Bouddi National Park (near Killcare) at a depth of ˜54 metres.
The location is - GPS Reading of 33º 32' 49'S 151º 25' 20"E
Acknowledgements : The assistance of Mori Flapan (Mori Flapan boatregister ) by providing access to his extensive database is greatly appreciated.
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'HALL CAINE' 1912 - 1937 (in Port Phillip Bay)DETAILS
Name: T.S.S. Hall Caine
Believed to be named after Sir Thomas Henry Hall Caine K.B.E.
Type: Twin Screw Steamer
Construction: Timber – sourced for Australian Hardwoods
Length: 131.2 ft
Beam: 29.0 ft
Depth in Hold: 7.25 ft
Engine: Two compound surface condensing – Poole and Steele Sydney of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street Sydney.
Builder: Denis Sullivan, Coopernook NSW.
Launched: 26th October 1912
Official number: ON 131549
Registered: Sydney 15 in 1913
Tonnage: n.b. 1 shipping ton = 100 cubic ft or 2.83 cu. m.)
Gross 213.88 tons.
Nett (Register) 97.56 tons (276.09 cu. m.) .
OWNERS:
1913 - 1916 Nicholas Cain (Director N. Cain's Coastal Co-op. Co. Ltd.)
1916 – 1918 John Storey Rodger
1918 - 1924 Holyman Brothers (Ltd) - Launceston
Register transferred to Melbourne – 16 of 1924
1924 - 1933 William Holyman & Sons Pty Ltd
Register transferred to Sydney 4 of 1933
1933 - 1937 Rocco Edmund Caminiti – Bondi NSW
LAUNCH 1912
Yet another boat has been sent on her way to take a place in the long line of steamers that trade from and to Sydney on the North Coast of New South Wales. This boat was launched on Saturday morning last [26th October 1912] from the shipbuilding yards of Mr. D. Sullivan, at Coopernook. Between four and five hundred persons had assembled for the occasion, and a number of them took an early position on the deck of the vessel, awaiting for her to be sent out on her maiden contact with the waters of the Manning.
The boat which is being built for Mr. N. Cain, of the Hastings River, is to trade between Wauchope and Sydney, in conjunction with the Macquarie and Ballengarra , and will, it is expected, take her place in the running early in January next. She has been built mainly for the carrying of timber, and in that connection has an average capacity for about 77,000 feet of timber. She will also take other cargo offered, but accommodation for passengers has not been included in her construction. (Brief extract from The Port Macquarie News and Hastings River Advocate Saturday 2nd November 1912) .
ARRIVAL IN SYDNEY
In tow of Messrs. J and A Browns’ tug Gamecock the hull of the new steamer Hall Caine arrived at Sydney on Friday afternoon. [15th November 1912]
She was built on the Manning River by Denis Sullivan, and is similar type as the steamer Tuncurry .
The Hall Caine which is designed for the coastal trade, brought a cargo of hardwood to Sydney. Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate Monday 18th November 1912.
FITTING OUT
The Hall Caine . — Our readers will remember some six months or so ago we published an account, of the launching of the steamer Hall Caine , at Coopernook, where her hull was built by Mr. D. Sullivan. The new steamer, which was built to the order of the N. Cain Co., will shortly be placed in commission, and will he under the command of Captain Greer, of the Ballengarra .
The Hall Caine 's engines were made by Messrs Poole and Steel, of Balmain to the designs of Messrs. James R. Thomson and Son, of Pitt-street, who, are also superintending the completion. The engines are twin compound — surface condensing engines, capable of driving her at the rate of nine knots an hour
when loaded. The boat is constructed of Australian hardwood, is 130 feet in length,
28ft. in breadth and 7ft 6ins. in depth.
The Manning River Times and Advocate for the Northern Coast Districts of NSW Saturday 5th April 1913 .
SOLD FOR THE TASMANIAN TRADE
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
The well-known coasting steamer Hall Caine , which has for some time past been running on the coast for Allen Taylor and Co., Ltd., has been sold to W. Holyman and Sons, Limited, of Launceston, for the Melbourne-Tasmanian trade. She is expected to leave Sydney tomorrow. The Hall Caine was originally built for Cain's
Co-operative S.S. Co.
The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) - Thu 15 Aug 1918
Damaged crossing Bass Strait STEAMER'S MISFORTUNES.
Hall Caine Again Damaged.
On both her last two trips from Smithton (Tas) to Melbourne the small wooden
steamer Hall Caine , of 272 tons register, has met with fierce squalls in Bass Strait,
and sustained extensive damage.
The Hall Caine was put into dry dock at Williamstown yesterday with her stern bulwarks stove in by heavy seas and scattered over her decks in a disorderly mass. Captain MacDonald said yesterday that a westerly gale whipped up a choppy sea something like the rip, only more so which began to crash over the Hall Caine with monotonous regularity. As the gale increased in force, so the seas became higher and more vicious. One wave crashed up against Captain MacDonald's cabin on the bridge, stove in the port, and saturated his bunk and many of his belongings.
Another sea struck the cabin of the chief mate (Mr. Bradley) smashed the wooden walls and for the second time, swept away all his personal effects. A third sea flooded the stokehold, and the crew was forced to tend the fires in swirling water. "One sea struck us with such force, said Captain MacDonald, "that the Hall Caine shuddered from stem to stern, and for a moment I thought that the whole of the port side had gone". Captain MacDonald caused the steamer to be hove to, and for a day and a night she remained with her head to the weather. When running for shelter to Flinders, the Hall Caine ran aground, but was later refloated and after bunkering, came on to Melbourne.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Sat 14 Jul 1923
MORE PROBLEMS IN BASS STRAIT – RUDDER DAMAGED
A new rudder is being fitted to the Holyman steamer Hall Caine which is now in dry dock, and the vessel will resume her run to the Gippsland Lakes next week, sailing from Melbourne on Tuesday. Other minor repairs are being made to the steamer
while she is idle. The Hall Caine , having lost her rudder in a gale off the Victorian coast on July 21, was towed to Melbourne by the Holyman steamer Laranah . She maintains a weekly service between Melbourne and Lake Entrance, reaching this port on Sunday, and leaving again on Tuesday each week. The mishap has caused her to miss one trip.
Daily Commercial News and Shipping List (Sydney, NSW : 1891 - 1954) - Sat 4 Aug 1928
SOLD TO INTERESTS IN SYDNEY
HALL CAINE SOLD.
Supply Ship for Trawlers.
LAUNCESTON, Monday.-The steamer Hall Caine , a unit of Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons' fleet, has been sold to Messrs. Cam and Sons, Sydney, and will leave for that port in about 10 days or a fortnight. It is understood that the vessel will be used as a store ship for the fleet of trawlers owned by her new purchasers.
The Hall Caine is a wooden vessel of about 200 tons, and was built in New South Wales. She was purchased by Messrs. W. Holyman and Sons in 1919, and was engaged for a long time in the trade between Melbourne and Smithton and the Gippsland Lakes. The vessel has been laid up at Launceston for three and a half years. She is now in dock, undergoing overhaul preparatory to leaving for Sydney. n.b she arrived in Sydney on 19th July 1933.
Advocate (Burnie, Tas. : 1890 - 1954) - Tue 4 Jul 1933
HALL CAINE FOUNDERS NEAR BROKEN BAYHall Caine , which foundered off Broken
Bay last night, was fortunate to escape. The steamer Idant came to their assistance when the little vessel was about to turn turtle. The engineer noticed water in the engine room late yesterday afternoon, and although the pumps started immediately, the water gained rapidly.
Distress signals were flown and the crew watched a steamer several miles off sail on without sighting the signals.
The Hall Caine filled up rapidly. Four hours later, the Idan t appeared. The crew remained on the Hall Caine hoping that she could be beached at Broken Bay, but she suddenly took on a list and almost at the last moment the crew hurriedly launched a lifeboat. They had just reached the Idant when the Hall Caine turned turtle.
Hatches blew out with deafening reports and the little vessel disappeared, leaving a large quantity of wreckage floating in the sea.
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) - Fri 19 Mar 1937
MARINE BOARD OF INQUIRY
HALL CAINE WAS COFFIN SHIP, SAYS JUDGE
Scathing Comments On Ship Sank
In Calm Sea
"With a new hull, new engines and new masts she would have been a pretty good ship," declared Judge Curlewis in the Court of Marine Inquiry when hearing evidence relating to the foundering of the coastal steamer Hall Caine .
After evidence had been completed he said the conclusion he had come to was that she was a coffin ship and should never have gone to sea. Not the slightest blame attached to the master, mate or engineer, he added. He thought they all did very well. The Hall Caine , 213 tons, was owned by Cam & Co., of Sydney. On March 17, while on her way from Sydney to Port Macquarie, she sprang a leak. TheIdant took the crew aboard and the ship in tow, but near Broken Bay she sank.
Judge Curlewis said the inquiry was to discover why a steamer went down in a calm sea. Evidence had been given that the Hall Caine was a thoroughly patchwork job. She was 25 years old, and there had been cobra in her. She put to sea on March 15 and returned because of bad weather. The master was very lucky to get her in on that occasion, as she must have been strained.
Nevertheless, a well-found ship would not have sunk in calm water, the Judge added. The boiler was such that it was possible to have only three inches of water in the gauge glass. Otherwise the boiler would not produce the proper pressure of steam. The boilers were imperfect, the pumps were imperfect, and the hull was imperfect. "The reasons the ship sank were that the hull was rotten, the hand-pump was in bad order and not properly fitted with a strainer, and the other pumps could not be worked because the boilers could not supply sufficient steam," the
Judge remarked. "In addition, the engines were not fitted with governors. I
am glad I never went to sea in her."
Weekly Times (Melbourne, Vic. : 1869 - 1954) - Sat 8 May 1937
HALL CAIN DIVE SITEHall Caine lie off Bouddi National Park (near Killcare) at a depth of ˜54 metres.
The location is - GPS Reading of 33º 32' 49'S 151º 25' 20"E
Acknowledgements : The assistance of Mori Flapan (Mori Flapan boatregister ) by providing access to his extensive database is greatly appreciated.
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Sculpture by the Sea, Bondi. NSW.
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